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Flybarless Rotor Head Systems > Synergy & Trex700 flybarless heads
 
 
inkspot1967
rrProfessor
Location: cranston ri.

The Tyler Bonta heads are going to be avl for shipping on monday they are complete heads with shortened mainshafts......Wahoo these are the best heads you will ever see or use very top notch quality. i cant wait to get my trex700 heads.......

Trex700e Ray N e- kit & "Fueled By Hate" Head
Next-D Rave Flybarless
Outrage Battery
11-19-2008 03:34 PM
 
 
puma1824
Senior Heliman
Location: Maryland, USA, MHA Member

I've got a Bonta head for my Synergy on order as well. If my N9 doesn't sell looks like I'll have to convert that heli too!
11-19-2008 04:41 PM
 
 
Flying Tivo
Veteran
Location: Monterrey,NL,Mexico

You really Piss me off!!

Ink

Last time i read your threads you where saying the Trex/Vibe heads from 3Dx where the best. So please make up your mind and dont be sucking up to get a free head. Be a man and pay for what you want. The worst of it is that you had a free head from 3Dx and you sold it for a profit. That really speaks LOUD about your integrity.

My conclusions would be that the Bonta head is great quality because its free for you!!!!!

On the other hand i know from personal experience that Bonta heads are good quality.

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Wahoo these are the best heads you will even see or use very top notch quaility

Only time will tell, unless you are a Certified Phrofet!

If life throws at you lemons......Squirt some lemon juice in the eye of your enemy!!!!
11-19-2008 04:51 PM
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inkspot1967
rrProfessor
Location: cranston ri.

1st off Flying Tivo i could care less if your pissed off.

2nd lets just get this strait im the one who designed the 3dx vibe/trex600n head with 3dx and most of my ideas went into the design of that head which it is a very nice head. i got a free head for my helping him design the head which he can to me. i sold my vibe with the head on but i most certainly didnt profit from it i sold it for a low price in the first place so i lost money on it.

3rd i have had a bonta head for a synergy before and the head goes far and beyond being the best head it was designed very nice and i paid 500.00 for it i dont get anything for free from them.

i will be buying my own head from carl so get a life and stop your winning.....

4th lets get this out in the open since you want to bring things up.

i helped 3dx design the head for the most part along with him and i told him how to make it work on the trex600n so that all came from me only and i didnt get one red cent from the heads being made i just got a vibe50 head so in a way i did pay for it with my time a effort to design the head. so we were even there if i choose to sell it its my choice

i told him to make it the same for the t700 just a bit bigger and he did. he told me i would get the first prototype to test out and he gave someone else the prototype head meaning you(Flying Tivo)which you have no vbar experience and was a complete joke to do how would you know how it works or can even help him set it up and that was not cool for me im the one who got him started and i got shafted well by you. so why dont you get a life and pay for a head and stop your winning.

so dont talk about my integrity which everyone here can tell you im definately someone who has helped out so many people with these vbar flybarless setups and just help out in general, so my integrity is very well intact.

i can even remember 3dx had to make a post about how to setup the t700 head and all he had to do is just ask me , if you were so good at it why couldnt you tell him how. i knew the answer right away.

so be careful before you get a big head and think you know what you are talking about.

Trex700e Ray N e- kit & "Fueled By Hate" Head
Next-D Rave Flybarless
Outrage Battery
11-19-2008 05:10 PM
 
 
GScott
Key Veteran
Location: Lewis Center, OH

Me thinks Flying Tivo opened the wrong can of worms. I believe the term is owned
11-19-2008 05:28 PM
 
 
Flying Tivo
Veteran
Location: Monterrey,NL,Mexico

LMAO

If you can show me the blueprints in CAD or Solid Works then i could believe you, that you are the designer of the 3Dx head. Just because i worked on it behind the scenes, does that mean i did not do it. So again i need to be like you, Bragging about everything i do, so people can believe me i do stuff. Well its not so! I have been flying flybarless long before you have. I was actually the first to have flybarless in Mexico. Do a search in RR. I do not need to brag about it so everyone thinks im cool, like you do.

How do you know i do not have any Vbar experience????? That is a failed assumption from your part. Just because you are good at it, does that mean no one else can be good at it?

The Trex 700 head was being worked on at the same time the Trex600/Vibe head was.

The Trex 700 has a design flaw if converted to flybarless.
The 700 was made to have extreme throws with flybar, so it could 3D.
If converted to Flybarless the resolution on the throws, comes down dramatically. Even if you think making the distance on the grip arms longer would solve this, you are wrong. And this was the advice you gave him. The resolution problems needs to be solve in other ways.
This is why he posted, and did not get a full answere either, as i explained to him.

I dont see how you think you have all the answeres, if you do, you should be designing.

So if helping out others means you have integrity, then you are the most integral person out there and good for you! I dont need reassurance from RR members to know where i stand. Does who know me, know me!


If you ask 3Dx he will always say you contributed with good ideas, and from were I see he respects you and admires you no doubt about that.

Your ideas were just part of it, if you have experience with CAD/CAM you will know what I am talking about, there is more than you think.
Designing in CAD with machining processes in mind, structural calculations, safely margins, machining process, 4 axis machining programs..blablabla…. Only if you are in this you will know what I am thinking about.

He owns a PET Bottle business and they have an internal research and develop department were they make the faster and advanced PET Bottle Machines in the entire world also robotics, labeling machines mold and many first word class technology .

I always ask 3Dx why he always like people involve on what he do, he simply say, I love people to participate, makes things more fun and makes new buddies.

So you say you were upset because you didn’t have the first prototype??? That’s why you have a problem???

Ok let me tell you…. It is true, I have the first prototype, and do you want to know why????

Ok, I donated my T700N for about a Month so they could design the head, I bought a V-Bar exclusivity for testing.

I spent lot of time with Claudio; Claudio is Eugenio’s CNC Div Manager.

What for??? So you could have your head ready and shiny. With your own brand [FLYBAR ARE FOR PUSSIES] Do you really know how much it cost to program a CNC machine to do just that??? You should be very thankfull to Eugenio and not bitch about not being the test pilot for the new head.

As for me being the test pilot, its because i have the heli in his office and can be test flown immediately when the parts come off the CNC machine. So everyone know, Eugenio does not need a test pilot, he flies very good. I only contributed in design changes and the Test bed(trex 700) itself.

Felipe

If life throws at you lemons......Squirt some lemon juice in the eye of your enemy!!!!
11-19-2008 06:23 PM
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Wingman77
Elite Veteran
Location: Pulaski TN US

flying tivo,

it would seem that you are the one that turned this thread into a bunch of hating and most of what you said in the begining was wrong anyway. why are you trying so hard do start a fight???
11-19-2008 06:57 PM
 
 
Flying Tivo
Veteran
Location: Monterrey,NL,Mexico

Wingman:

Please do not put the title as a FIGHT, because it is NOT!!!

My topic was that i was upset(pissed off, in coloquial term)
that Ink was switching to another head just because he did not get
the prototype head of the trex 700.

Can you imagine designing a head without the heli at hand to base your drawing???

In this lots of words you probablly got confused.

Eugenio is trying his best to design a head for everyone, and suddenly a good friend turns around and gives his back. In Mexico friends dont do this. This is why i was pissed off or upset.

But its not a FIGHT!

Felipe

PD: My last post for respect to 3Dx.

If life throws at you lemons......Squirt some lemon juice in the eye of your enemy!!!!
11-19-2008 07:04 PM
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3Dx
Key Veteran
Location: Monterrey NL Mexico!

Guys Guys!!! Just stop it please!!!
11-19-2008 07:07 PM
 
 
duke666
Senior Heliman
Location: Hampshire, UK

if you read Inks previous posts he always had praise for the Bonta head and has used them before. So what's the problem with having another?

Duke
11-19-2008 07:09 PM
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Wingman77
Elite Veteran
Location: Pulaski TN US

never mind..
11-19-2008 07:11 PM
 
 
3Dx
Key Veteran
Location: Monterrey NL Mexico!

Wingman

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you helped design the head

No Flyingtivo did not design, he just borrowed his T700 for design, and he invest time with my CNC Div Manager. I was traveling.

This is just stupid, just stop it please guys

UPS you edited
11-19-2008 07:13 PM
 
 
cba7824
Senior Heliman
Location: Alaska

Peace man!

Charlie
Avant Aurora YS 91SR / Hatori SB-19 / JR 8717 / Spartan
AMA#913768
11-19-2008 07:34 PM
 
 
inkspot1967
rrProfessor
Location: cranston ri.

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Please do not put the title as a FIGHT, because it is NOT!!!

this is exactly what you were trying to do no dought about it, all you had to do is not post anything and pm'ed me instead but you choice to come out and talk about my integrity.

stop drinking tequila and eating the worm your heads a little fuzzy.

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The Trex 700 has a design flaw if converted to flybarless.

actually your wrong there it doesnt have a flaw it could be easily done without changing the head design. again if you knew what you were doing 3dx wouldnt have to start all over again making a new design.

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Eugenio is trying his best to design a head for everyone, and suddenly a good friend turns around and gives his back. In Mexico friends dont do this. This is why i was pissed off or upset.

if your referring to me im not i never said anything about him til you opened you mouth.

Trex700e Ray N e- kit & "Fueled By Hate" Head
Next-D Rave Flybarless
Outrage Battery
11-19-2008 07:39 PM
 
 
A129
Senior Heliman
Location: Home

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Me thinks Flying Tivo opened the wrong can of worms. I believe the term is owned
11-19-2008 08:14 PM
 
 
Mapleleafs
Senior Heliman
Location: Ontario, Canada

wheres my popcorn, this is prime entertainment......
11-19-2008 08:33 PM
 
 
thenewguy
Veteran
Location: The Moon!

I like popcorn!
11-19-2008 08:41 PM
 
 
crdhelipad
Heliman
Location: Rio Rancho,New Mexico,USA

holy **** guys it is just a hobby
11-19-2008 09:21 PM
 
 
cba7824
Senior Heliman
Location: Alaska

Internet drama is great, but nothing beats Korean Drama!

By the way Mike, I still haven't flown the Vibe 50. Still on vacation in Hawaii and will be extended to Jan. 03, 2009 Is it worth changing my T-Rex 700 to electric and where did you order your conversion kit? PM me cause I don't wanna jack this topic

I did manage to take it pretty much all apart and put it back together getting the Vbar unit installed but not fully tuned because I ran out of time before I had to leave for Hawaii, I should have brought it with me instead of my 450 because it's been breezy down here!

Charlie
Avant Aurora YS 91SR / Hatori SB-19 / JR 8717 / Spartan
AMA#913768
11-19-2008 09:23 PM
 
 
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