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e-Miniature Aircraft Furion - Razor - Ion-X > tried the new MA Furion ESC and Motor?

Knud Pedersen
Veteran
Location: Denmark - Europa

Has anybody tried the new:

MA Furion ESC 60 Amp
http://miniatureaircraftusa.com/sto...sp?prod=130-510

MA Furion 450 HP Series 4400KV Motor
http://miniatureaircraftusa.com/sto...sp?prod=130-515

MA Furion 450 Sport Series 3595KV Motor
http://miniatureaircraftusa.com/sto...sp?prod=130-520

???

ChopperKnud

ChopperKnud - Knud Pedersen
Miniature Aircraft USA, CSM
www.ThePitchbrothers.com

11-11-2008 08:21 PM

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Horacio
Veteran
Location: California

I think they are everywhere, just not branded MA.

11-11-2008 08:27 PM

fla heli boy
Senior Heliman
Location: cape coral, florida

yep

just relabeled Scorpions

"If it flies, floats or f***ks, you're better off renting it"

11-11-2008 09:20 PM

kcordell
Veteran
Location: O Fallon, MO

Works perfect! Just make sure you use the right pinion for your motor.

Team Futaba, Miniature Aircraft Pilot, YS Engines, VelTye

11-11-2008 09:54 PM

bcm
Senior Heliman
Location: Tuolumne,CA

do they have a BEC?

11-13-2008 11:57 PM

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jphilli
Veteran
Location: Marietta, Ga.

Yes, 6 volt BEC and I think it's rated at 4 amps.

11-15-2008 01:09 AM

nickmaxwell
Senior Heliman
Location: Fort Wayne, IN-USA

These motors have different bearings in them...MUCH smoother, IMO. Noise when they are unloaded is quite a bit better, and they hold a gear mesh better.

Nick

11-15-2008 06:15 PM

petmotel
Veteran
Location: DeKalb, IL.

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These motors have different bearings in them...

Thanks for that information, are the bearings of a different size, or just better quality?

Jay

11-16-2008 11:50 PM

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nickmaxwell
Senior Heliman
Location: Fort Wayne, IN-USA

Better quality. Should over all last longer, less maintenance.

Nick

11-17-2008 01:16 AM

fla heli boy
Senior Heliman
Location: cape coral, florida

Soooo

they're not just "re-labeled" Scorpions?? That's whay I had heard. I need to order another motor soon and if they are different, I'll have to look into them.

"If it flies, floats or f***ks, you're better off renting it"

11-17-2008 04:55 PM

petmotel
Veteran
Location: DeKalb, IL.

Motors might be worth the extra 5 bucks over the regular Scorpion prices for the improved bearings.

If that ESC is identical to the Commander 60A V2 it's kind of hard to justify the extra 20 bucks. Does anyone know if there is any variation in the MA part?

Jay

11-17-2008 07:39 PM

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OICU812
rrProfessor
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada

Scorpion uses NSKs', I wonder if these Min Air bearings are sealed and what brand of bearing???

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

11-17-2008 07:45 PM

Knud Pedersen
Veteran
Location: Denmark - Europa

http://miniatureaircraftusa.com/sto...sp?prod=130-510

http://www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/me...de=SC-SW60A-ESC

Are these two the "same"?
Does both have a 6V BEC?

ChopperKnud - Knud Pedersen
Miniature Aircraft USA, CSM
www.ThePitchbrothers.com

11-18-2008 11:28 AM

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phattalon
Senior Heliman
Location: Muncie In

Yes they are the same esc. The bearings in the motor make a huge difference in sound in flight. The furion with the new motor with the japan bearings in it are alot smoother! Oh and i have quite a few flights on it and the bearings hold up much better than the stock.

Jason Russell

11-18-2008 05:10 PM

petmotel
Veteran
Location: DeKalb, IL.

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Are these two the "same"? Does both have a 6V BEC?

No these two ESCs are definitely not the same unit. The link posted to the Ron Lund site is the Scorpion 6 cell switching BEC. The Miniature Air unit is the Commander series unit which has a max four cell linear BEC.

Here are the links to the Scorpion Importer's listings for the two units.

http://www.innov8tivedesigns.com/pr...products_id=377
http://www.innov8tivedesigns.com/pr...products_id=308

Jay

11-18-2008 06:01 PM

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OICU812
rrProfessor
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada

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Yes they are the same esc. The bearings in the motor make a huge difference in sound in flight. The furion with the new motor with the japan bearings in it are alot smoother! Oh and i have quite a few flights on it and the bearings hold up much better than the stock.

I got the part that they are "different" but what are they, ceramic, sealed, vxbs?? NSK are made in Japan as well, so what's the difference in these bearings?

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

11-18-2008 08:06 PM

derekandjennys
Senior Heliman
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA

Better bearings would be nice. I think it looks better also.

I am currently running Castle 45 and i think it is only 3A BEC
Is anyone running 4 digitals with issues? Like 3 5065s and 3500G
With alot of pitch, not just sport flying.
May be a reason it is needed. Also I have recorded many spikes over 60 Amps

Air Thunder Lipo

12-02-2008 06:31 AM

nickmaxwell
Senior Heliman
Location: Fort Wayne, IN-USA

I have used the CC45 with 4 5065s and 9257 without any issues.

With the -6 on 11T it gets warm, but nothing out of the ordinary.

Nick

12-03-2008 08:43 PM

OICU812
rrProfessor
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada

Ok so apparently we will not know what these bearings are....